Monday, March 03, 2008

There Were At The Very Least Some Conservatives That Broke The Law

This is no joke. This whole matter of an elected official possibly being bribed is an attack on our democratic institutions, not to mention in light of the circumstances, grossly immoral.

I believe there were Conservatives who broke the law, Stephen Harper corrobrates this, and thus unless he's lying, there were Officials from the Conservative Party who broke the law.

In regards to Stephen Harper, he knew of financial offers to Chuck Cadman. That's a fact. There is evidence readily available to prove this is a fact. In this audio tape Stephen Harper says, and I quote:

"Of the offer to Chuck, it was only to replace financial consideratiions that he could lose in an election."
Thus by his own word, Stephen Harper clearly admits that he knew that there was a financial offer between officials from the Conservative Party and an Independent MP Chuck Cadman.

Now in reviewing the Criminal Code, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985, chapter C-46, as amended, paragraph 119(1 b) which states:

119. (1) Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years who:

(a) being the holder of a judicial office, or being a member of Parliament or of the legislature of a province, directly or indirectly, corruptly accepts, obtains, agrees to accept or attempts to obtain, for themselves or another person, any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by them in their official capacity, or

(b) directly or indirectly, corruptly gives or offers to a person mentioned in paragraph (a), or to anyone for the benefit of that person, any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by that person in their official capacity.

According to the Criminal Code in offering Chuck Cadman "any money" or any "valuable consideration" in exchange for his vote to bring down the Liberal government, the Conservatives that Stephen Harper acknowledges to have offered Cadman financial reimbursement broke the law, clear and simple.

As the Prime Minister knew of the offer to Chuck Cadman and indeed admits to talking to the Conservatives who made it, I would call upon the Prime Minister to clarify which particular Conservative Officials made the illegal financial inducement in order to fully enforce the law and to at least attempt to restore the credibility of Members of Parliament.

Furthermore, if Stephen Harper authorized this illegal activity in any way, he would be guilty of indirectly participating and thus vulnerable to similar investigation.

11 comments:

Steve V said...

Perfect title, which the Cons seem to forget today.

Anonymous said...

Don't get too smug. From CTV.ca:



Fife said the Tories should come clean on what went on with Cadman, but there are questions about Liberal behaviour too.

"Apparently they knew about this in 2007 ... and they kept it, probably waiting for an election campaign," Fife said.

"There's no clean hands in this sort of thing."

Jim said...

See the sad thing is this stuff happens all the time in ottawa without any sort of legal ramications.

Minister Belinda Stronach

Minister David Emerson

Why all the moral indignation all of a sudden?

Probably because you can't stand to be laughed at...and after Mercer's bit, the country is laughing at the Liberal party.

Sorry, couldn't help but throw that last bit in. :)

Anonymous said...

anon: Could you explain how the Liberals knew about this in 2007? As to waiting for an election, there was talk of an election in 2007 and they didn't bring it up then.

Jim: Offering an MP a cabinet position is not the same as a pure financial inducement. One is based on merit the other is based on bribe.
-scott

Anonymous said...

Yeah, trying to make paint this as black and white is a fool's game. The Cons will simply claim any offer was made in an attempt to join the Conservative party just like Stronach was offered the cabinet post to join the Liberals.

Anonymous said...

Offering an MP a cabinet position is not the same as a pure financial inducement. One is based on merit the other is based on bribe.

Sorry, I thought there was some sense of reality here. I'll be moving on....

Anonymous said...

Anon: I gave a rational answer, instead of even addressing it, you "move on", which suggests you have no reasonable reply but only aim to attack and not provide any form of justification.

The law is the law. With Emerson and Belinda there was no illegal act, that's a fact. And it wasn't illegal because that was giving someone a job based on merit.
-scott

Steve V said...

Speaking of Fife, he also said Cadman's statement today didn't really change anything, and he wondered why the two Con operatives don't just come forward, hold a press conference, air out all the questions. Good question.

Anonymous said...

I agree
-scott

Jim said...

(a) being the holder of a judicial office, or being a member of Parliament or of the legislature of a province, directly or indirectly, corruptly accepts, obtains, agrees to accept or attempts to obtain, for themselves or another person, any money, valuable consideration, OFFICE, place or employment in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by them in their official capacity, or


Did you actually read these statutes Scott? I could believe merit in the case of Emerson, but in the case of Stronach, given the timing, it would be tough to prove.

Methinks you losing touch with the reality here, and only seeing what suits you.

Anonymous said...

Jim: I suggest you read my comments before responding to them. I said, "The law is the law. With Emerson and Belinda there was no illegal act, that's a fact. And it wasn't illegal because that was giving someone a job based on merit."

There was no illegal act with Belinda or Emerson, if you think there was, go to the CBC because they would like to see your proof. As for me, I've presented mine.
-scott